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Motion: Web3 is worse than Web2 (Liron Shapira vs. Kyle Samani)

December 24, 2021 • Richard Yan, Liron Shapira, Kyle Samani • Episode 34

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Guests:

Liron Shapira (twitter.com/liron)
Kyle Samani (twitter.com/kylesamani)

Host:

Richard Yan (twitter.com/gentso09)

Today’s motion is “Web3 is worse than Web2.”

Web3 is a new buzzword that’s generated a lot of excitement, but also a lot of confusion and division. You’ve got plenty of intelligent and reputable individuals on both sides, either advocating it as the future or denouncing it as a delusion.

Here are two succinct ways I have heard Web3 described:

Web1 is read-only. Web2 is read-write. Web3 is read-write-own.

Read-only as in, static pages served by relatively few content publishers. Read-write as in, explosion of user-generated content, think social media. Web3 as in, users do not only contribute content, they also own that content and can port it from web application to web application.

Here’s a second way I have heard Web3 articulated. It was from Li Jin’s Means of Creation podcast:

A mental model for Web3 is a world computer where everyone has access to its data and can change its data.

I think for some of you, these definitions seem refreshingly clear. For others, they only add to the confusion.

In any event - Our two guests today include a Web3 advocate in the form of a successful token fund founder, and a Web3 skeptic who has openly questioned the legitimacy of various claims of this new paradigm. Interestingly, the Web3 skeptic confesses to seeing some value in crypto as a medium of payment and enabler for digital art NFTs.

If you’re into crypto and like to hear two sides of the story, be sure to also check out our previous episodes. We’ve featured some of the best known thinkers in the crypto space.

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Source of select items discussed in the debate (and supplemental material):

Liron's skepticism of views from Web3 advocates:
- Chris Dixon's Web3 thread: https://medium.com/bloated-mvp/chris-dixons-crypto-claims-are-logically-flimsy-a26cc8906b3f
- Naval and Dixon's appearance on the Tim Ferriss show: https://medium.com/bloated-mvp/naval-ravikant-and-chris-dixon-didnt-explain-any-web3-use-cases-affc45ec3c60
Multicoin on Helium: https://multicoin.capital/2021/03/17/the-helium-flywheel/
Axie Infinity as potential ponzi scheme: https://medium.com/coinmonks/axie-infinity-gaming-nft-revolution-or-ponzi-scheme-3d81b1647429

Guest bios:

Liron Shapira is a rationalist, entrepreneur and angel investor. He is the CEO of Relationship Hero, a Web2-based relationship coaching service. He has expressed his skepticism of Web3 extensively on social media and on Medium.

Kyle Samani is a cofounder at Multicoin Capital, one of the most successful venture funds this cycle. Kyle is a day-one supporter of Solana, a smart-contract platform optimized for high throughput